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Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Warrior 
  Home: Highland , In   03/31/2007 08:28
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What do You Fisherman Think?

I have been having some problems about Treble Hooks and Single Hooks.I have a Few Friends Up in Wisconsin that never use Trebles on there Spoons.They tell Me they get better action,and with one Single Point a better hooking.They are always Filling up the Box,and They have Days like 18 for 20,24 for 25 and limit out Days more often then Me.I have asked a few Fisherman and some say Trebles,others say single Hooks.It is more of a Self Confidence Thing.
Whats Your Opinion? John

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
salmonhead 
  Port: Muskegon, South Haven   03/31/2007 08:32
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I have a mixed bag on my boat Warrior. I like a light treble for action, but nothing beats a single for strength. I have found a 3/0 single is about the same weight as a #1 treble made by the same company and either will give the spoon the same action.
Singles store easier, come out of fish easier, come out of the net easier. Trebs have more likelyhood of hooking the fish, but lack the deep bend of a single and might come unbuttoned on a squirrly fish like a steelie or coho. singles are way stronger and much less likely to straighen out on a big fish.
I have a lot of trebs, but am making the move to singles.




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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
t3pt6k 
  Port: Grand Haven, MI   03/31/2007 08:46
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This is defintely the age old question and debate amongst fisherman. In the end it's all about personal preference, but from the data I've collected I think it is about a wash.

Trebles will stick more fish but you will drop one from time to time. Singles will miss some hookup but when the fish are stuck they generall stay stuck. But if you weigh the missed of singles against the losses of trebles I beleive that the number of fish to the boat is about the same.

The most important factor in mind is regardless of single or treble make sure you usea good qulaity hook and that they are sharp at all times. Nothing loses fish like dull hooks.


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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Warrior 
  Home: Highland , In   03/31/2007 08:48
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Thats what I thought to salmonhead.I am playing around with them figures.Man can You drive out by Me if it aint the Salmon how about Jumbo Perch.!I will get my head straight soon.I love this site and want to get it More Actavated.Thank You Admins and i HAVE yET STARTED TO POST ALOT OF pics of Fishing Trips.I kinda as "Catholic" just Sundays Fishing 6 days a week unless they are bitting on Sunday! Whowa John

I am sorry fix this Admins,I have not been this bad for awhile on typing,I do have good info.just have been feeshing to much.Is that a crime?I want to get this Board a flying soon.The Feeesh are biting!I have to go walk the Dogs at the Humain Society in Gary,Indiana.Something I do,most do get a homeI am working on gettting some of the dogs to the elderly home,which really works out Great.I have My Lab and what aGreat Friend even if the Fish are not bitting.He is part of My tools for catching Fish.Anyway The Perch came in in big Schools,I cannot even tell You,but the Big Pond is looking better everyday!
I have to get to the Humane Society and walk the dogs.Be Feeshing by Noon!lol
spc.jOHN

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Chinookeith 
  Port: Racine WI   03/31/2007 15:34
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In my opinion there is no question, SINGLES.
Especially on spoons.
I doubt that anyone can tell you how many fish don't hook up accurately. If a fish takes a spoon into it's
mouth with a single with the point to the cup side I don't see how he can miss getting hooked.
How many of the bumps you see where the rod shakes are actually times a fish or baitfish got struck by the linemoving through the water? Or times where a fish swats the bait to stun it?
For the reasons paul stated I love singles.
Less chance of a hook getting imbedded into YOU, tangled in the net, or snagging a net when a person (god forbid) misses a fish , thus hooking the hook with the fish not in the net. OOPS lost fish.
Easier storage, no totally tangled spoons to untangle in the box.
More solid hookups, etc. etc.
Trebles have their place, crankbaits, but NOT on spoons!

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
RedFerrari 
  Port: Kewaunee Wi   03/31/2007 16:14
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Last year I switched all my spoons to singles.My hook up percentage grew. I really noticed the difference while targeting steelhead. I felt I acheived, less fish loss, better hook sets, less net tangles and less loss after a long fight.


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RedRider 
  Port: Port Washington WI   03/31/2007 22:04
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Singles as long as you make sure they have the offset or you tweek them.I do have some old spoons with trebles only because my son says they caught fish before,why change them..


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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Thunderduck 
  Home: Spring Lake , MI   03/31/2007 22:23
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It is my opinion that a treble has 3 times the chance of hooking a fish, I am a 100% good trebles and keep them sharp.

Capt. Willis

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Josh 
  Port: Milwaukee, WI   04/01/2007 23:11
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Singles do a much better job on steelhead. Other than that I think it's a wash as far as hookup percentage. As someone pointed out, they are MUCH easier to deal with, however. They store easier, come out of the net easier, come out of the fish easier and they'll never straighten out. Most guys that prefer trebles have never tried singles I think. Give them a shot. If you don't like them you can always switch back.

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
jamoke 
  Port: MIlwaukee   04/03/2007 17:10
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I use all singles. I just have more confidence in them and they are much easier to deal with than trebles.


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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   04/04/2007 10:51
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I agree with Willis...3 points are better than 1...but the single hook thing intrigues me to say the least.

I've talked to several captains that fish the north shore of Erie for steelhead every summer, and a couple of them have made the switch singles..and their catch rates have increased substantially.

One has to wonder when you read reports that say...

"We were 13 for 25 today on the bullets"

Wonder how that ratio improves with singles??

I'm going to play around with it this year...but I'd like someone to give me an idea of what size single would work best behind walleye-sizes spoons.


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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
Chinookeith 
  Port: Racine WI   04/07/2007 02:04
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Clark, if you are fishing walleyes you may be better off with a treble. I say this just because of the difference between the mouth of a walleye and a salmon or trout.
However, you would still reap the benefits of the single in not tangling in nets or together, or with your fingers.
I am just thinking a big single might tear a big enough hole in a walleyes mouth sometimes that it might fall out.
I'd say a 1/0 should be fine.

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
TheFlea 
  Port: Grand Haven   04/08/2007 08:35
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It is kind of funny how we started out fishing with singles moved to trebles because of alot more hookups. Now we are talking about going back to singles because we get less hookups but have a better hookup to loss ratio. I am sure there is a place for singles and a place for trebles, but right now I am not going back where I started. I now most of the top tournament fishermen are using trebles and most are guys that started fishing the Great Lakes with singles. Maybe this is a fad like hairstyles and clothes. I will take the action and miss a few fish, because isn't it the action that makes fishing fun. Good luck on the singles guys, but I am staying with a good quality treble for now.

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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
FLATRATE 
  Port: Manistee   04/08/2007 09:34
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As somebody already said , I thinks its a personal preference , kind of like the Chevy vs Ford argument. I like singles for all of the reasons mentioned above , but I don't have a data to prove they catch more fish and I kind of lean toward the idea that with a treble there is a better chance ( 3 times ) of hooking up and staying hooked up. I also beleive there are times when one probably has an advantage over the other depending on species of fish targeted. If I had to run one or the other due to rules or regulations I could live with either one and not lose much sleep over it.I'm not sure its worth switching all my baits over to singles or to trebles , I just stick with the hook that comes on the bait, make sure its a good quality hook and keep it sharp. You know what they say about opinions , and everybody has one!


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Re:Single or Treble Hooks on Spoons.
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   06/19/2007 11:33
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Keith...

Just as a note...100% of weight forward spinners use a long-shank single hook.

I should have put out some of the walleye spoons that I transitioned to singles when you were over here to test...but why mess with something that is working, eh??

Yah der..hey der...HO DER!!!



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