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sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/23/2008 17:29
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Has anyone had any luck painting netcrafter spoons.I just painted up a few with some laquer and a brush.They dont look too bad I tried copying a stinger in shrimp colors.I then brushed on some sally hansen hard as nails.I just wonder how it will hold up?

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Re:painting spoons
LittleDandy 
  Port: LaSalle,MI   02/24/2008 09:27
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I coat most of my walleye spoons with clear Sally Hansen Hard as Nails when I get them. You can usually tell which didn't get the treatment in a short time. You should be fine. I'm curious, did you prime them with anything? I've got a couple spoons in my head I'm thinking would be cool to try using only the nail polish, its amazing how many colors they offer

There was an article in the Great Lakes Angler mag a year or two ago about a guy that was using rattle cans to paint salmon spoons. May have been in the Tips section.


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Re:painting spoons
sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/24/2008 09:50
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No I just painted them,I used laquer from netcrafters.I agree with the nailpolish thing.What about the crankbaits from netcrafters have you used them?Hard to beat the price 2.19 for a deepdiving bait just add one split ring and hook.I bought a few crayfish looking ones to try in front of luna pier/Toledo Beach.

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Re:painting spoons
LittleDandy 
  Port: LaSalle,MI   02/24/2008 10:42
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Never tried any of their cranks. Let us know how they work for you.


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Re:painting spoons
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   02/25/2008 08:20
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I've used some of the Netcraft cranks (shallow divers) off of boards with Snap Weights in the past and had good success with them (perch pattern). One thing you will find is that you will likely have to tune every one, as my experience has shown that many of them do not track well out of the package at trolling speeds. Adjust the eyelet on the bill of the crank to get it to run correctly.

I've not painted any of their spoons, but have threatened to do so for the last couple of years. I have access to an airbrush...just didn't take the time to get it all together.

Little Dandy has more spoons than we'll ever use in a year anyways....


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Re:painting spoons
sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/25/2008 13:55
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cool thanks guys

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Re:painting spoons
LittleDandy 
  Port: LaSalle,MI   02/25/2008 15:52
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BFG wrote:
I've used some of the Netcraft cranks (shallow divers) off of boards with Snap Weights in the past and had good success with them (perch pattern). One thing you will find is that you will likely have to tune every one, as my experience has shown that many of them do not track well out of the package at trolling speeds. Adjust the eyelet on the bill of the crank to get it to run correctly.

I've not painted any of their spoons, but have threatened to do so for the last couple of years. I have access to an airbrush...just didn't take the time to get it all together.

Little Dandy has more spoons than we'll ever use in a year anyways....


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Yeah, but we need some for next year


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Re:painting spoons
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   02/25/2008 15:59
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Well, if anything new jumps out at me this weekend at Birch Run...I'll be sure to grab a few for the boat Mike.





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Re:painting spoons
sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/26/2008 18:24
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BFG,
Can you tell me how you run your snap weights.What kind of lead lengths do you run.Can you give me some examples? how much do you play with your speed and so on.Thanks in advance sinful

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Re:painting spoons
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   02/27/2008 08:41
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When I fish with Bender, we run the larger cranks (Taildancers, Hot n Tots, etc.) behind inline boards with Snap weights in front of them. Typically we use the 1oz. size and follow the Offshore Tackle recommendation of the "50-50" rule...which means let the crank out 50', attach weight, then another 50'..then attach the board. The weights are attached to the line with an OR-17 pinch pad-style release (see image, but we replace the curtain ring with a split ring onto which the weight is added).



We use the Precision Trolling book to figure out the lure type and size weight to get down to where we need to be, but some days you have to tinker with the lead length from lure to Snap Weight. We usually start at 50', then do one of two things...add more weight, or lengthen the lead. This is the program for mid-May through the September.

The Rapala Taildancer is one of the most under-rated cranks on the market. A lot of guys on Erie run Reef Runners, Husky Jerks, Renosky's, Hot n Tots, Wiggle Warts, etc...but we've found the Taildancer to be extremely speed tolerant and to be brutally honest...a fish killer. I believe it comes in 3 different sizes, and we've found the "middle" size to work the best during the summer months. Here's a couple of our favorites for warm weather walleyes, and a new one (copper color) that we'll be adding to the arsenal this year as well.







Bender maintains pretty much the same general speed while trolling (he uses a kicker with manual throttle)...around 2.2-2.5mph SOG on the GPS, but we turn a lot...and will occasionally throw the kicker into neutral for a few seconds if we are marking fish in the zone and not getting hit.


Hope that helps...


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Re:painting spoons
sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/27/2008 13:16
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BFG,
That helps alot!It gives me some where to start.I'll definately get some tail dancers too.I have alot of wiggle warts to try to.I asked this question on another board and they told me i shouldnt need snap weights fishing the area i do.But ive seen charter boats in my area (Luna Pier) using them.I cant wait to try it
thanks matt

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Re:painting spoons
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   02/27/2008 13:22
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Glad to help.

If you are fishing the Luna Pier area..your friends assessment is correct. However...when that corner gets really warm (mid-June-August) you'll want to venture out towards W. Sister or over a bit East towards the Golden Triangle to find active numbers of fish...and that's where the Snap Weights w/ cranks can really shine.

Do not discount the deeper water off of Stoney Point as well. Had a couple good trips out there with Little Dandy last year in August/September.


Edit: Forgot to mention..when the mayflies get thick in early June...be sure to run a gold/black crank on 50' lead behind the board (up high)...especially in the evening...

Whammo!!



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Re:painting spoons
sinful 
  Home: erie , mi   02/27/2008 18:29
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BFG,
When I say luna pier,I mean thats where my boat is moored.I go where ever necessary to catch fish.Do you only use the snaps in deeper (20+)water.Where is the golden triangle?

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Re:painting spoons
BFG 
  Port: Anchor Point, Lake Erie   02/28/2008 08:17
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Most of the cranks we have will dive to a max depth of 12-15'...with the exception of the Deep Taildancers...which go down to 25' or so. If we need to get down deeper than that, we pull out the Snap Weights and use Precision Trolling.

The Golden Triangle is the area within the boundaries of W. Sister Island, the Toledo Water Intake, and the Turnaround Buoy. Connect the dots and there you go...basically gravel flats.

Hope that helps.

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