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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
WingNut 
 		    01/01/2005 10:45
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Darrell
The best temperature for finding the fish is whatever temperature their food is. Temperature breaks act like invisible walls trapping small organisms between waters of different densities. The organisms are food to the baitfish which in turn are food for your quarry. These breaks can be vertical or horizontal (thermocline). They are great places to begin your search. Not every temp break will hold fish and the ones that do will often only do so in concentrated areas. Temperature is only one peice of "structure". The most productive temp breaks will often intersect or parallel physical structure. Reefs, humps, drop-offs are good examples of places to look for along the temp break. I refer to areas where two or more bottom features intersect a temperature break as the "spot on the spot". Add the presence of baitfish and the fish are somewhere close by, you can bet on it. The best morning of fishing I've ever experienced was a temp break of 2 degrees that paralleled a bottom drop of 2 feet. The fish were on the warm side of the break, the cold side of the break and in the middle too. There was no floating debris to indicate a good temp break and it was barely visible to the eye. By watching our surface temp on the graph and criss crossing the break in depth we were able to stay on fish for several hours.

A general guideline for preferred temps: (subject to change daily)
Chinook: low 40's to low 50's
Lake trout:mid to upper 40's
Coho: upper 40's lower 50's
Steelhead: 40's and 50's
Brown Trout: 50's and 60's
Jim...I Fish Therefore I Am
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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
BigPapaSports 
 		    01/02/2005 10:46
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Jim,
I like those guidelines Our best temps for Kings has been 43 to 48 degree's and as Rick said look for cold surface temps usally offshore for steelies although we took a few in warmer temps last year in the top 20ft of water.
BigPapaSports

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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
Greenslip 
 		    01/02/2005 12:40
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Darrel,

Jim just wrote what I call a "PRINTER". Posts like his used to take years to figure out, and was why Great Lakes fishing was a mystery.

Jim's best line is the temp break acts like structure, BINGO, it's structure for the bait. With these big salmon, find the bait and you'll find the salmon. If it was only that simple, Eh!

Temp breaks have been a part of my "program" for the last few years. All the advice above is Excellent!
A not so high tech visual aid is to watch the gulls. If the seagulls are diving into the water, odds are they are feeding on Alewives that are right up top. It's allways worth a trip through the area to see what they are feeding on. It sould be Alewives or a dead fish I'd guess about 25% of the time it's Alewives. BTW if it's a dead fish, give him a good look as most likely he'll have a bait hanging out of his mouth. Two years ago I picked up two Bechold + fly setups this way. (If anyone can name that port they can have them).

My standard program goes sort of like this:

Morning fishing:
Set up where I was catching fish the day prior.
If didn't fish the day prior then I'll call someone and ask them.
If I go out with no Intel Then I set up and drive. This is a fast profram, spoons and 3.0+ on the speed looking for fish or bait maybe even bait + a temp break.
Fast set up includes dipseys, riggers and maybe a pound ball rig.
I try to staty away from any crowds as your hunting fish.
Once you pick up a fish, mark the spot GPS is a beautiful thing. Fish past it then I throttle back to approx 2.0 - 2.5ish on the speed and add in some dodger fly rigs ( Actually I prefer Becholds) as they are pretty speed tolerant. Then pass over the spot from the reverse dirction.
I build off this info.

Sites like this are great for setting up on or near the fish. Just ask and I'm sure someone will tell you where they were yesterday.

Tim
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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
WingNut 
 		    01/02/2005 13:08
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Hey Tim! Nice to see you over here! I've got a feeling things are really going to take off around here. Especially if we keep gaining members of the caliber we have been.

Jim...I Fish Therefore I Am
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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
Greenslip 
 		    01/02/2005 14:47
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Jim,

Wish I could of made it down to Bender for Browns but I was working. I'd like to meet some of you guys I'm conversing with on these sites. I'm hoping to make one of the Spring/Summer get togeathers.

Take care and as always nice talking with you.

Tim
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Re:Tempature Range for Fish
WingNut 
 		    01/04/2005 18:53
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Tim
You didn't miss much fishing wise but the tail gate was excellent! I'm sure that this will be an annual if not semi-annual event. I'll see you on the next go round. We can have a few cold ones and swap stories about how we got banned from one of the lesser sites out there.

Jim...I Fish Therefore I Am
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