I fish with both regular and magnum rings. If I want my diver to dig less deep or less far out to the side I just let less line out and/or adjust the setting. I don't see any disadvantage to fishing without the ring except when you are trying to get deep. Instead of taking them off and putting them on it's just easier to leave them on. Too much on and off loosens them. A little plumbers goo helps keep the rings on in the event that they become loose.
Jim...I Fish Therefore I Am
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I only fish with out the rings because I'm to lazy to keep putting them back on, and have either lost them or broke them. Plus i have got use to fishing with out them so i have a good feel for where the dipseys is running in he water column so i have not gone back to the proper way.
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I use to fish exclusively with divers on our old boat. (dont ask). Anyway i prefer to leave them on. Like the previous said, you get used to the depth and that helps. I also started using the Mag divers last year with the larger weight and super mag ring. I really like them for late summer. Unless i am really shallow for some reason, like under 30', i prefer the mag rings on even a regular dipsy. the adjustment on the back lets you get away from the boat more or deeper down. i like the pull out when on 3 and pull down when on 1 or 1.5. As for the Mag divers, i think they are closer in and catch fish that originally came to the rigger spread and shyed away. just my thoughts here, but it seems like i caught more on them because they weren't soooo far away from the boat. I feel like i can keep them as part of a cohesive spread instead of off on their own. Just my thoughts. I also really like getting 72' down with only 150' of line out. When Mr. Big grabs hold and runs for Mexico, you have him on a lot shorter leash to begin with. Less stretch, less chance of another boat cutting you off, and less to reel in when they are poorly hooked. I have a Cabelas gmt40 that i have hooked to the divers to check and then drove towards shore to confirm and they were within a foot of each other. Basically it boils down to more surface area on the diver so it pulls more in any direction you have it adjusted. It also helps, when using the rings, to seperate the divers on the same side more. It is really easy to run 3 per side with rings. I personally have a little harder time when they dont have the rings on while doing that. if i want to really get away from the boat, a ringless slide diver or dipsey is key.
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In the spring when I am targeting the top 40 FOW, I want my diaver away from the boat. I fish it no ring so that it does not diver too fast, and I can let more line out.
In the fall, when I want to get 60-90 ft down, I use super rings.
Just think about what part of the water column you wish to attack and decided what ring you may need.
Mike
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I have never came close to getting a hit on a dipsy yet, running 30# braided wire, Dipsy, shock cord 5' of mono leader, dodger and about 18" back fly or spoon, and haven't come close to a hit, I here people on the radio up here the pro's swearing by them and us amateurs hate em, what are we doing wrong?
Whalerman
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Whalerman, if your using a dodger off a Dipsy I would be concerned about speed. I have mainly gone to rotating flashers because they are more speed tolerant. A dipsy rig with a flasher and fly (either braid or wire) has been very productive. I rarely put only a spoon on but super-mag green monkey puke and green or blue dolphins work well when I do use spoons.
With the 8" rotating flashers I have found leader length to be very important with 23" from the loop to the hook being best. Last year I was getting great action on the port Dipsy. Duplicated it on the starboard but couldn't buy a hit. Had them both in at the same time and found that the starboard fly was 24". Re-tied and starting taking fish on that rig too.
Ryan Think Kings!!!
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